{"rewrite":{"id":"r_0315827b752b8caad8601a77","clusterId":"c_d785d8c12664fda66a55bdc9","slug":"yuji-horii-and-katsura-hashino-dialogue-reissued-for-metaphor-switch-2-launch","model":"deepseek-v4-1-flash","headline":"Yuji Horii and Katsura Hashino Dialogue Reissued for Metaphor Switch 2 Launch","summary":"Metaphor: ReFantazio came to Nintendo Switch 2 on November 12, and Denfaminicogamer marked the port by republishing its full 2024 dialogue between Dragon Quest creator Yuji Horii and Metaphor director Katsura Hashino. The conversation first ran in a booklet bundled with the Metaphor: ReFantazio Atlus Brand 35th Anniversary Edition. The two discuss what draws them to RPGs, with Horii tracing his path from The Portopia Serial Murder Case to Dragon Quest's dialogue-driven storytelling.","whyItMatters":"The reprint ties the Switch 2 port to the design argument behind Metaphor: Horii's claim that Dragon Quest moved story through dialogue is the lineage Hashino's Atlus RPGs are being measured against.","webCardHtml":"\u003cp\u003eThe dialogue was conducted in 2024, before Metaphor shipped on PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, and PC, and it ran in a booklet included with the Atlus Brand 35th Anniversary Edition of the game. Horii opens by describing how he moved from drawing manga toward games, citing The Portopia Serial Murder Case as the point where he started making them seriously. He says he wanted an incident to occur and drama to move forward inside a game, and that the idea of a story progressing through exchanges with a boss carried into Dragon Quest.\u003c/p\u003e","blueskyPost":"The Horii and Hashino dialogue first ran in a booklet inside the Metaphor: ReFantazio Atlus Brand 35th Anniversary Edition. Its reappearance online is tied to a hardware launch, not to a new interview.","twitterPost":"The Horii and Hashino dialogue ran first in a booklet inside the Metaphor: ReFantazio Atlus Brand 35th Anniversary Edition. The Switch 2 port is why it circulates now.","threadsPost":"The Horii and Hashino conversation was not written for the Metaphor: ReFantazio Switch 2 launch. It first ran in a booklet bundled with the Atlus Brand 35th Anniversary Edition, so the port is the occasion for reissue, not the reason the talk exists.","newsletterBlurb":"Metaphor: ReFantazio launched on Nintendo Switch 2 on November 12, and Denfaminicogamer marked it by republishing its 2024 conversation between Yuji Horii and Katsura Hashino in full. The dialogue originally appeared in a booklet bundled with the Atlus Brand 35th Anniversary Edition. 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